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John William & Carrie Belle Pitner WYCHE
Submitted by:
Joan Wyche
Eighmy

This is a picture (taken at
Whitaker Home) of My
Grandmother, Carrie Belle Pitner Wyche, with three children: Clifton Finley,
W. C. Boaz, and Cherter Garby.
She was married to my grandfather, John
William Wyche, who was half Cherokee. Married for over fifty years and he
was about 20 years her senior. They were also second cousins and it was an
arranged family marriage where he brought her from Texas in a buckboard into
Indian Territory which later would be Rogers County. Of course, I only
knew him when he was seemingly ancient and he would tease me in
Cherokee...and perhaps also scold me too because I was somewhat impish
according to my parents. We never knew exactly when he was born...his
grandmother was a sister to Tom Starr of Oklahoma fame and he grew up in the
Cookson Hills and knew the outlaw gangs and of course Belle Starr who
married into the family. He never was very proud of her however!!! To our
knowledge he left home before he was sixteen when his mother died, used to
work the ranches and according to our father, he farmed and ran moonshine.
My grandmother was the oldest of seven children from a farming community in
northern Texas. She helped her mother, who was also a Cherokee healing
woman...to raise the younger children so moving to Oklahoma and eventually
after raising her own three children, going to work in the Whitaker
Orphanage would have been as normal as breathing. Both my father, John
Wyche, and his brother Tom Wyche attended dental school in Kansas City and
eventually returned to Oklahoma to practice and raise families in southeast
Oklahoma. He told me about sometimes riding his motorcycle to the Orphanage
from Kansas City and trying to coax his momma to "ride" with him to
Claremore but she would refuse...and I wonder why!!! She used to tell me
stories about the children when I was growing up and how some were such
scamps and some were so loving and she wanted to take them home with her.
So often I am sure these stories where to remind me of how lucky we were to
have parents and grandparents there for us. My momma told me the first time
she met my "grandmomma" it was at the Orphanage....she and Daddy had come
down on the motorcycle (a Big Indian) and momma wanted to take two little
boys home with her...this was of course before either myself or my brother
were born and she decided having two of her own were plenty of trouble!!!
From the letters between Daddy and Grandmother, I would suspect that she
worked for about ten years perhaps at the Orphanage and then Daddy arranged
for them to move to Hugo to be close to him. I feel that I may be a little
off on the timeframe all tho I think the Depression was a factor because
money would have been an issue for the family and when my dad and his
brother were in dental school she was not able to send him money--he worked
in gas stations which would be periodically robbed, peddled eggs where they
often had only the broken ones to eat that day and then supplemented with a
unknown flair for playing and winning at poker...which his momma would
never have approved!! That would have been around 1938 or so perhaps. In
the letters she would talk about how as much as she loved being with the
children, especially the very little ones, her health was not too good, her
legs would ache with carrying them around all the time and perhaps that was
why he talked them into resettling in Choctaw County. My grandfather died
when he was about 100 (we think!!) and she passed away in her mid eighties
when I was in college. They both enriched my life so much, with stories of
their own lives, their extended family which was always close and very
colorful, and just being there to "tell me a story". This is much the lost
art in our present society.
She worked in one of the
cottages (assuming
there really was a "Lilac Cottage") with the younger children and some of the pictures I have are my
mother or her with young children on the steps of the institution. My
mother and father were newly married and my mother was so taken with the
children there, how well cared for they were. She wanted to adopt several,
I remember her telling me. I am thinking my grandmother probably worked
there from perhaps the early part of the 1920s...maybe until the late 1930s
or even early 1940s. She lived in Claremore and would go over and perhaps
I suspect was a house parent? My dad was in dental school in the late 1920s
and I have letters she wrote him while she was there also. What I
especially remember, she always had one hip seemingly higher than the other
and she told me that was from carrying the babies around at the orphanage.
Oddly enough, we often come through Pryor on
our way back and forth from southeast Oklahoma (we live in Hugo,
Oklahoma) to Missouri where we lived for many years and where our
children now reside. I always wanted to find the orphanage; never
realize it still existed but is now the Thunderbird Academy. What is
even stranger, I am a clinical psychologist and have worked with
placement of students at risk at Thunderbird but NEVER realized it was
the old orphanage and for some reason I had never had to travel for a
placement. I hope one of these days to have an opportunity to visit the
site.
This page was last updated on
08/13/11
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